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Dyson and wharton are the only two undergraduate business schools offered by the ivys. Dyson has a significantly lower admissions rate ( 3%) compared to whartons (7%), but wharton outranks Dyson is pretty much all category. Does anyone have any insights on either schools, which they prefer and why - asking from someone who would like to study business .

 
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Currently a senior also wanting to study business. Wharton definitely has more prestige than Dyson, though Dyson may have the lower admissions rate. In addition, other state schools might be better than Dyson, for example Ross at UMich, or McIntire at UVa. If you want Ivies though, Columbia has a decent Financial Economics program which isn't true business, but it's pretty close. In addition, most of the ivies have decent econ programs that set you up for business, like Brown has the Business track, and Harvard/Yale/Princeton/Dartmouth will still take care of you and you'll get recruited with the rest of them.

I'd apply to both Wharton and Dyson (and I hope you consider some of the others), and if you get into both, I'd pick Wharton unless Dyson for some reason really calls to you.

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To say that Wharton has more “prestige” than Cornell Dyson is a misnomer. With very rare exceptions (that are almost always due to the vagaries and inconsistencies of various ranking models one refers to) Dyson and Wharton essentially run “neck and neck,” (an extremely close tie) to use a horse race metaphor. To say one is better than the other is splitting hairs. They both are among the top ten business schools in the nation in all the rankings worth looking at (and yes, there are rankings not worth looking at, like Niche). Wharton does have the better “brand name,” since its familiar to more consumers/students, but it should not be confused with “prestige,” since in all metrics their quality is so close that they’re virtually indistinguishable in overall quality. The reason why Wharton is better known is mainly due to the fact that Dyson wasn’t always the official name of Cornell’s Undergraduate business school; in fact the name is relatively new, as it was changed to the “Dyson School of Applied Economics and Management” only 13 years ago, in 2010. Before that it was called something else and was in a different organizational component of the overall university. Confusing, yes. That’s the primary reason it’s less well-known among consumers/students. (A lesser reason is that Jeremy Siegel, the famous economist has been all over the airwaves for a few decades, doing PR for Wharton. Also, former president Trump, whose father bribed his son’s way into Wharton, incessantly bragged that he graduated from Wharton.) In 2010 the Dyson Undergraduate school of business was placed within the newly established S.C. Johnson School of Business within Cornell, which also contains Cornell’s Graduate school of business (which also previously had a different name/location within the university’s organizational chart). It is to be noted that Cornell’s Graduate school of business has been around a very long time.

However, the bottom line is that both Dyson and Wharton undergraduate business schools have been around for a very long time—over a CENTURY. And both Cornell Dyson and UPenn Wharton are outstanding, and, given that both are the ONLY two undergraduate business schools within the Ivy League, in the eyes of most consumers they are considered the best overall in terms of quality, comprehensiveness and prestige. An important point is that to the people that matter—those doing the hiring of the graduates of these schools—the brand name and prestige of Dyson and Wharton have always been extremely well-known among corporations, banks, government and other universities; the name change of Dyson had no bearing on their perception of the business school. Dyson and Wharton are World Class business schools. A crucially important point to students is that, given that Dyson undergrad student body is only one-third the size of Wharton undergrad student body, your chances of getting an internship (at OCR time) to one of your top choices of banks or corporations to work for are MUCH BETTER at Dyson due to LESS COMPETITION, just on the numbers (Dyson total undergrad student body is approximately 830+/- compared to Wharton total undergrad of 2,500 total student body)! Employers can only hire a limited number of students from each business school, and being in a smaller graduating class has a huge advantage! Finally, for those considering working in banking, you should know that Cornell (Dyson and non-Dyson) and UPenn (Wharton and non-Wharton) are always among the top three or four universities that place the most students into the most elite levels of banking, along with Harvard and NYU Stern (mainly due to Stern’s proximity to most of banks’ headquarters in NYC—just a subway ride away. It must be noted that NYU is an urban university with NO CAMPUS and that Stern has a deserving reputation as having a hyper-competitive, cold and cutthroat culture, owing partially to having the highest number of international students of any university. Buyer beware.). That said, there are a handful of other top business schools also worth considering if you want to consider only the best schools.Good Luck!

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