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3 months ago
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How much of an impact do LORs and essays have on my application?
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The chance calculator says I have a 1-11% chance of getting into Stanford (my dream college 🥺) based on my academics and extracurriculars . How much of an increase can I expect with the LORs and essays?

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3 months ago[edited]

According to CV at Top250 colleges , essays count for roughly 25% of the college's admission decisions and interviews about 10%. So together about 35%. The other 65% being test scores 15%, grades 20%, and ECs 30%. So, in general, they are quite important but I personally believe that at Top20 schools like Ivys and Elites, it gets much more complicated as evidenced by how each college weighs and prioritizes various factors and how long their scorecard is.

If you research and evaluate each of the schools you are considering applying to by studying the relative importance of admissions criteria that they disclose on their common data sets you will see that some top schools place a higher value on things than others.

At Harvard for example, the following criteria are given a relative importance of "CONSIDERED"

Rigor, Class Rank, GPA, Test Scores, Essays, Recommendation, Interview, ECs, Talent/Ability, Personal Character, Volunteer Work, Racial/Ethnic identity, SAT/ACT essays (last cycle).

At Stanford, they think everything I've listed is "VERY IMPORTANT" except for the category of Interview, Racial/Ethnic, Volunteer work which has a "CONSIDERED" value.

At MIT, only Personal Character is "VERY IMPORTANT", Rigor, GPA, Test Scores, Essay, Recommendation, Interview, ECs, Talent/Ability, SAT IIs (last cycle) are "IMPORTANT" and Class rank, Racial/Ethnic, Volunteer Work, and SAT/ACT essays are "CONSIDERED"

So not only do T20 schools have more criteria than 5 mains ones but more like 13 main ones, but each of them put a different relative importance on each of the main criteria.

But in reality, I can tell you that Stanford, MIT, and Harvard have very complicated scorecards which have up to a 100 or more criteria on them. If you want to learn more about the Stanford one, then watch some youtube videos on various admits who have requested to see their admissions file. They break down what the Stanford scorecard and what they scored.

On a cursory level, I can with confidence say that the essay/interview will not count for 35% of your admissions criteria at any top 20 colleges. It might be 15% tops.

That being said will your 1-11% magically jump from a hard reach to a target if you have a great essay and interview. Not so much because most of your peers vying for the same spot are competing with you and are all going to spend a lot of time prepping for their essays and interviews.

I applied to Stanford last cycle with a 30%-40% and did not get accepted. My guess is that I didn't excel at intellectual vitality. I'm sure I scored mostly 2s on everything else. One of my friends got in and it's clear that she fits more than what Stanford was looking for. She coded, built an app for COVID-19, took Calculus III and Linear Algebra, Differential Equations, was on the robotics team and a State level Violinist. I certainly had more leadership, volunteering, community service, honors and awards but it was clear to me that Stanford likes very STEM'y people versus humanities types that are trying to save the planet and humanity.

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3 months ago[edited]

For a school as prestigious as Stanford, I would say there's no concrete percentage or amount quantifiable to how much LORS and the essays affect your chances. If your stats and extracurriculars fit within Stanford's extreme parameters, I would just focus on showing you're unique. Stanford gets more kids with 4.0s, 1500s, and amazing extracurriculars than they can fit, so it's all about making yourself distinctive and using the weight they have on their essays and LORs to your advantage. While it depends on the quality of the essays and LORs, Stanford's Common Data Set for last year holds essays and recommendations to the same level of importance as test scores, class rank, and extracurriculars.

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3 months ago

Hi there!

I'll answer your question in two parts, one addressing LORs and the other on essays.

Letters of recommendation are kind of like the icing on the cake - they're not foundational, but are more of a checkbox that you need to hit in order for your submission to be complete. That being said, a bad letter of rec can definitely disqualify your application. For instance, if your teacher writes something negative or casts you in a bad late, you could almost automatically be rejected based on that. If your teacher writes a generic response, that's also not great and can ding your app a bit too. Unfortunately, it doesn't work the other way - an excellent letter of rec will boost you only slightly in the admissions process but won't be your ticket to attending the university; rather, the other components (grades, test scores, essays, etc.) will have to do that. This is why it's important to have a solid letter of rec - check out this article for a step-by-step breakdown of how to achieve that: https://blog.collegevine.com/9-rules-for-requesting-letters-of-recommendation-from-teachers/

Essays, on the other hand, have a lot more weight in the admissions process than rec letters.

That is, if you clear the Academic Index. You can learn more about that here: https://blog.collegevine.com/what-is-the-academic-index-how-is-it-calculated/

Stanford's supplementary essays and your personal statement are means of convincing admissions officers to root for you through the admissions process and to include your in their incoming class. With the right essay, you could propel yourself forward in the admissions process with slightly weaker extracurriculars, as long as you're clearing the threshold academically.

For a breakdown of how to write this year's essays: https://blog.collegevine.com/how-to-write-the-stanford-university-essays-2021-2022/

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3 months ago

LORs don't help a lot. They play a small role in the admissions process (in most colleges).

Essays play a big role. As the other responder has said, with schools like Stanford, almost nobody has a >30% chance of getting selected. These schools are reaches for everyone. So focus on your essays and hope for the best. Essays impact your chances a lot especially in elite colleges.

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