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a year ago
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Making Ivy Leagues a target instead of a long reach

On this website, I put in a bunch of stuff and made GPA a 4.0, ACT 35, and 1 tier A and 9 tier F and G activities, yet it still says that the Ivy Leagues are a long reach, no matter what I do. Does anybody know why this is?

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@cp839a year ago

It says they're a long reach? It might be down to your demographics unfortunately.

@DebaterMAXa year ago

Also they are Ivies so I’d never count ivies as anything but a reach

@cp839a year ago

I meant long reach as opposed to a reach. Of course they can't be targets, I just find it weird that they're not even reaches for the author and I speculate that demographics are probably the reason.

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a year ago[edited]

HAHA! I guess I'll put it this way... The number of freshmen the Ivies takes each year ranges from about 1000-3500 (dependant on the size of the specific Ivy you're looking at.) Compare that to the 3700+ kids who got a 36 and the ~15,000 kids who got a 35 on their ACTs last year. This means that even if the Ivies were to look at ONLY kids who got 36s, not everyone would make the cut even at the largest Ivy. And, if the Ivies ONLY looked at kids who got 35s and up, the acceptance rate of the largest Ivy would become less than 25%, or in the case of the smallest Ivy, less than 10%! Those are extremely low numbers!

This is all to say that there is a ton more that goes into the Ivy admissions office's decision making than pure stats because if they were to take everyone who "deserves" an Ivy education based on the numbers, they wouldn't have enough room at their schools! The college admissions process is extremely nuanced, which means it doesn't matter if you have a 4.0 GPA, 36 ACT, 1600 SAT, all 5s on AP tests, all 800s on subject tests, and president of every club you attend... the Ivies still are a reach because the fact of the matter is there are many, many high achieving students in the US and around the world.

a year ago

Two factors may be affecting this. First, you said that you put 9 F and G tiers activities. These aren’t very highly ranked activities and will probably have little affect on your application. Second, your demographic might also be affecting your results.


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