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2 months ago
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Should i apply with the SAT or not?

Hi, i'm a latina student that wants to apply early decision to Columbia with financial aid. My gpa is around 4.0, my extracurriculars are really good (a lot of science research, community service, etc), my essays are good but i didn't manage to score well on the SAT. My score was 1350 (r&w-720 math-630), should i apply with the sat or should i take advantage of the test optional policy?

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2 months ago

Hi! A 1350 is a great SAT score. I would say, however, not to use it for Columbia, since their average SAT score starts at a 1440. If you already have great ECs and GPA, I would just focus now on a good essay and LOCs, and apply SAT optional. This is just my opinion, but I hope it helps!! :)

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2 months ago

If I were your college counselor which I'm not, I would suggest that you apply ED with your test scores to Barnard College, not Columbia College.

Why? Columbia ED is extremely difficult and admits a maximum of 650 students regardless of how many apply. Last year 6435 applied for a 10.1% ED admission rate and the avg. SAT was 1535 with a range of 1500-1560.

Barnard on the other hand is still part of Columbia University and not only can you take classes at Columbia, but you can also apply for a dual degree program called the 4+1 pathways program. You can get a 4-year degree from Barnard and Masters's degree from Columbia.

https://barnard.edu/beyond-barnard/4plus1-pathways

Barnard ED is much more reasonable at 25%-30% and their RD is about 10.8% vs 3.66% at Columbia. Their SAT range of admits for the Class of 2025 was 1420-1550 for the middle 50th percentile.

Whether or not you submit your SAT is a lesser hurdle than having to compete with the some of the most talented HS seniors who are going to be applying ED to Columbia. And I highly suspect that ED applications will top 7000 this year.

Good luck.

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2 months ago

A 1350 is a good score, don't let anyone fool you. However, Columbia is extremely competitive and a 1350 is well below their 25th percentile for SAT test scores. As a result (given your already-good GPA and extracurriculars) I would go test-optional. Test-optional programs are designed not to hurt you and a large percentage of accepted students went test-optional in the last admissions cycle. Not sending the score isn't necessarily going to help you, but it won't hurt you, whereas sending in a score below their class profile will reduce your chances of admission rather than increasing them.

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