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Mid-Year School Report - Grade drop
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So, I submitted a few college applications and almost all of them require a mid-year report.

During this semester, all of my classes have been 9 AP classes and within those AP classes, I've only managed to get mostly Bs, a couple of A's, and one C.

What are my admission chances because of this drop? and will they understand because of the courses that I am currently taking? Should I add this to my additional information?

My current unweighted GPA is a 3.8 and I know it is going to fall to around a 3.3-3.5.

My weighted GPA is a 4.9 and it'll probably fall to a 4.4-4.7.

My GPA will be back to a 3.8 by the second semester. Do colleges care about this GPA at all?

Here are the schools that I've applied for and that are waiting for a mid-year report:

Harvard - I got deferred from this school. After seeing my Mid-year report, will they understand? Do I still have a chance from getting in?

Please let me know!

Notre Dame

Northeastern

Johns Hopkins

Boston University

University of Chicago

Brown University

University of Florida

University of Richmond

University of Rochester

University of Denver

Butler University

Washington College

Whitworth University

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[🎤 AUTHOR]@Ashley_University3 years ago [edited]

Sorry, I meant to say that I am taking 8 AP classes in one semester. I wasn't forced into taking that many, most of the AP classes that I am taking are introductory classes that relates to the thing that I want to major in - I genuinely am interested on the topics. Also, my grades are not going to significantly drop, they're mostly going from 90s to high 80s, but my school does not do the B-, B, or B+ system which can significantly lowers one's GPA.

[🎤 AUTHOR]@Ashley_University3 years ago

the C came from Macroeconomics which I need to graduate but sucks since I'm not really good with anything that doesn't involve math and science.

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3 years ago

I think the lower GPA for the mid year will factor in for your reach schools, Harvard, JHU, UChicago, Brown, NotreDame, not so much for the other 9 schools.

Forgive me for asking but I'm confused about the 9 APs. Are you taking 9 APs now?

Was this something your HS counselor or parents pressured you to do? I'm curious what the thinking was behind this decision. Most successful IVY/Elite might have a total of 9 APs not 9 APs per year

Thanks for the clarifying this.

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3 years ago

Hi @Ashley_University!

I think your chances are still good at most of your targets, but I need a bit more context to give you a fuller answer.

Is this your first semester taking APs? And, if so, how many have you taken before? (I'm also a bit confused about your taking 9 AP courses this semester — most students don't even take that many courses in a term, or have that many APs in total.)

I'm wondering because that would give me a idea on the trajectory of your overall transcript: how many APs you typically take in a semester, and how you've tended to do in them until now. My immediate concern is that you may have overreached this semester (having not taken many AP courses before), and that this will be a topic of discussion for those reading your application.

It's extremely impressive that you took 9 AP classes and got through the semester with decent grades. But it's concerning that you overextended yourself, since admissions officers expect you to take reasonable courseloads you can excel in. I'd definitely recommend scaling back a bit next semester.

Now, regarding your grades, you gave us a pretty wide range. A 3.3 is a lot lower than a 3.5, and your GPA will be factored differently depending on your demographics. A 3.5 would also put you at the lower end for all your non-reach schools (except for Washington College) — but I'm also not sure how your unweighted GPA could drop to a 3.5 (or 3.3!) from just one semester of mostly Bs. I'd double-check your math on that, as you should be closer to a 3.7, which would be fine for most of your intended schools. (Your GPA accounts for all of high school, not just the latest semester.)

Regarding the mid-year report, that is more like an addendum to your transcript: admissions officers take it into account as part of your grades when evaluating your application. Normally they'd be looking for senioritis, but I think you're good on that front. In fact, I don't think you have much to worry about, other than the fact that it looks like you overextended yourself (which is not much of a demerit). The lower overall GPA might make your reach schools like Harvard less likely, but otherwise you'll still look good academics-wise.

And lastly, your grades in senior spring aren't going to be a factor in admissions. Colleges receive those from your end-year report, which is mostly just for transferring AP credits and such. They might issue a warning or rescind admission if there's an extreme drop in academic performance — but as Priya mentioned, that's more of a "nuclear option."

So in short, there's more info I'd need to give you a fuller answer. But from what I can tell, you're just dealing with a drop in grades senior fall. It'll be noticeable, but I don't think this will be a deciding factor at your reach or target schools.

Best of luck!

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3 years ago

Hi there @Ashley_University,

Good question! I've pasted the following from this article which you might find helpful: https://blog.collegevine.com/what-is-the-mid-year-report/

"For regular admissions students, the mid-year report can either give their application a push over the top, or put an end to their chances of admission at a particular school. It gives borderline candidates an opportunity to show improvement, highlight an upward academic trajectory, spotlight a new athletic achievement (for example, making captain of a spring sport team), and call attention to additional distinctions. Conversely, a negative mid-year report can serve as the excuse an admissions officer needed to pass on a candidate."

"Rescinding an offer is the nuclear option for colleges. It’s more common that a school will send a student a warning letter—many of which ask the student to follow up with an explanation for why their grades have fallen and what they’re doing to correct the situation. No matter the reasons for a student’s drop in grades, they should reply to colleges with an honest and sincere explanation and a detailed course of action for how they plan to get back on track.

It’s worth noting that colleges are receptive to the challenges facing students; however, they’re more understanding of students facing extenuating circumstances, like illness or family issues, than students who simply decided to kick back senior year."

Hope this helps!

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3 years ago

Didn't you mention in your other post you had a trepidation about submitting your 1270 SAT as well? I'm not sure if you submitted your 1270 since some of the deadlines on the reaches have passed.

But combined with the anticipated lower mid year grade report and the lower 1270 SAT, I think this s perfect last chance to add some targets and delete some reaches for RD.

I don't see any liberal arts colleges on your list except for URichmond. How about looking these college with later deadlines? Many of them were Test Optional even before COVID-19 so they are used to evaluating applications with out standardized test scores.

Bennington College 1/15,

Skidmore College 1/15,

St. Lawrence college 2/1,

Whitman College, 1/15

Lewis and Clark, 1/15

Reed College, 1/15

Clark University, 1/15

Pitzer College, 1/7

Smith College, 1/15

Mt. Holyoke College, 1/18

Macalester College, 1/15

Trinity College CT, 1/15

Franklin & Marshall, 1/15

Bates College. 1/10

Bryn Mawr College, 1/15

Just a thought.

Good luck.

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3 years ago[edited]

I think that it will factor in your reach schools as @CameronBameron said, it may also affect your target schools. That being said if there were other reasons for your grade drop, maybe outside pressures then you could explain to your colleges: i.e. you had trouble managing applications and senior grades at the same time. I am also confused if you are taking 9 AP classes because I thought usually people have about 7-8 periods. One period which usually taken up by PE and lunch.

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